Cloris Leachman: A Late-Blooming Star Tells All

The beloved actress on staying positive, staying flexible and beating Betty White in a Jell-O wrestling match.

Cloris Leachman wearing items from her own clothing line,
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You’ve got some big movies coming out this year, starting this month with Quentin Tarantino’s Inglourious Basterds. What’s next?
I’d love to sing. We were discussing what I would do after Dancing with the Stars and I said, "I’ll be on American Idol.” Then I learned you have to be under 28. So my son said, "We’ll just get Gloria Allred and she’ll sue them. For age discrimination." [She laughs. A lot.]
Here’s a serious question: Who would win a Jell-O wrestling match – you or Betty White?
Oh, without question, I would.
Other than recently expressing disdain for Russell Crowe on Chelsea Lately, you rarely say anything negative about anyone. How do you avoid gossiping?
Oh, I love to gossip, and I love to hear gossip. But that’s all it is. I never want to be cruel, but I’m always noticing people’s oddities. As an actress, it’s important to be aware of differences, because otherwise you’d play the same character all the time.
What are your thoughts on parenting?
I’ve never seen any reason to get mad at my children – they’re human beings with feelings. We’ve always had fun as a family instead. Once, my mother was staying with us in our three-story house when the kids were young, and she called out to me, "Bryan is up on top of the roof – how do you want to reward him?" [She belly laughs. For a long time.]
What would be the most important thing President Obama could do for people your age?
Kiss me. Well, I’d settle for a hug.
You’ve been pressured to change your name and your face. Why didn’t you?
When I was a little girl with so many freckles it was ridiculous, I looked in the mirror and said, "Who am I?" I remember seeing that I had a long neck, back and nose. So I thought, "I’m aristocratic." And definitely, in real life, of course, I was a princess – or at least somebody of royal birth. [She laughs.] Also about that time, I was crying and caught a glimpse of myself in the bedroom mirror. God, it was ugly. That’s when I became aware that I could look different ways. I didn’t even know that was called acting.
How is it that you can still lift your leg over your head at age 83?
Stretching. When I say stretching, though, it’s about the least amount you can do in the world. But I can bend down and touch the floor with my entire hand. It’s not so much that I’m lithe – it’s that I have short legs.
To what do you attribute your substantial success?
I’ve had a remarkable, amazing experience – and that’s not an accident. When I was a child in Iowa, I woke up every morning to sunshine, a light breeze and meadowlarks singing – heaven. My mother was an imaginative, accepting person. If I’d been criticized as a kid, I never would have arrived where I did. Once, in high school, I stayed out all night. When I got home, Mama said, "I thought you were smarter than that." My god, that meant that she thought I was really smart! That’s the message I got, anyway.
Thanks for your time today, Cloris. Is there anything else you want to add?
About that wrestling match with Betty White—the reason I would win is because my legs are really strong. I think it’s the stretching.

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