More: You’ve done a lot for the sake of show business—you’ve opened up your home, publicly shared your battle with cancer and your history of abuse—but what is something you would never share with the public?
SO: I wouldn’t do cosmetic surgery [on TV]. People don’t learn anything by? that. You’re not sharing something that can help somebody out. It’s like watching somebody on the toilet. That’s just for your own benefit of trying to get ratings.
More: As one of the original reality stars, what do you think of today’s reality TV, like The Real Housewives franchise?
SO: It fascinates me— the fact that people can be invested in people who aren’t famous, who have no notoriety. I’m not knocking it at all; I just think it’s just an insight into how we all are.
More: Do you ever regret opening certain parts of your life—or Ozzy’s or Kelly’s or Jack’s—to the public?
SO: Yes, sometimes, but then overall, on a business and emotional side, we got more from it. I can’t sit and say that I wish I’d never done that because if I hadn’t, I wouldn’t be in the position I am today. The only consolation I have to opening everything up so much was that a lot of it was done out of naivety. I didn’t know the repercussions because it hadn’t been done before. I honestly didn’t think it was going to go as well as it did.
More: How is your relationship today with Ozzy and the kids different than it was 10 years ago?
SO: It’s very different because my children are now adults and my husband and I are now 11 years longer together. Nothing in life stays the same; everything in life changes. I now have adult relationships with my kids and my husband and I are 11 years closer than we were before.
More: How do you deal with media scrutiny of you and your family? You used to send boxes of excrement to reporters when they wrote something negative about you’re family, but it seems like those days are over.
SO: I’m a businesswoman and I’ve been raised in this industry and I know how important the press is. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But it’s like showing a painting to 100 different people—you will have 100 different opinions of that painting. I don’t mind being critiqued, but I don’t like having lies written about me or my family. I will take the truth, but when people embellish and make stories up, they’ll get a bag of shit [Laughs]. Not anymore, I shouldn’t say that. I’m over it. Look at what’s happening in the English press [with the News of the World hacking scandal]. There’s always going to be the minority of people who like to write bullshit, who like to embellish the truth. You just have to accept it. As you get older, it’s easier to accept. It’s the world we live in and you can’t fight everything.
More: You were once a big supporter of plastic surgery but then you swore it off. Why?
SO: You have to know when it’s enough. I still think it’s amazing, but I had to know when to stop.
More: Not all women know when to stop…
SO: They don’t, and they do end up looking like the Joker [laughs].
More: How did you find your stopping point?
SO: You have to understand that you’re going to get your face done and it’s going to get lined again. You’re going to have your breasts done and they’re going to fall again. You have to accept that. Every time you get a wrinkle or a frown line or something, you have to accept it’s a part of who you are. You can’t be lineless for your entire life. It looks grotesque after a while.